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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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hey guys ryan sprague here from

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somewhere in the skies and welcome to a

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special live episode of the show tonight

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uh if those of you who are not aware of

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expedition bigfoot what are you doing go

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over to discovery plus right now and

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check it out they just had their season

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finale last night and uh the chatter

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online was um it blew a lot of people

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away and um you guys know me i'm all

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about everything ufos bigfoot

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loch ness monster i'm moving to scotland

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just so i can hunt

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nessie so um i thought what better than

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to bring on the guy who's been out on

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these expeditions with expedition

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bigfoot for the past three seasons of

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the show and will there be a fourth we

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will talk about that um but before we do

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that i do want to welcome everyone in

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the live chat here i see darcy

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skinwalker wrench dressing bigfoot

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society is here uh wiseguy4 thank you

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thank you everyone for being here we are

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gonna take some listener questions maybe

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throughout maybe at the end we'll see um

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this guy is a busy guy so we'll see what

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we can do tonight guys so i guess

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without further ado let's bring him in

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to talk all about season three of

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expedition bigfoot the finale and all

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the amazing discoveries they made this

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season so

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welcome back to the show mr bryce

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johnson what's up man hey ryan how's it

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going

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good very good so i i have to show you

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this before we do anything

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um oh yeah we got this just for you

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brother

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we are celebrating nice oh that's great

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as as my bigfoot collectors club

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listeners know i i don't drink but i'm a

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connoisseur of non-alcoholic drinks so

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i've prepared my own little uh something

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to go along with the show but it's great

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to be here i'm a big fan of somewhere in

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the skies so hello to all your listeners

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and uh thanks for having me back on man

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my pleasure my pleasure yeah i think we

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had you and ronnie on to talk about

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season one when the fir when the show

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first appeared um so it's been a little

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while and uh

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oh man you guys have had a lot of

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incredible stuff happen uh since

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yeah yeah i would say seas season three

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or or last year was was probably the

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most active we've experienced uh ever

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since the show began i know um

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at least personally and i know the other

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teammates would feel this way this was

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by far and above the most active uh

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it has been and you know we're going to

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go over i think tonight some of the um

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the evidence that you guys collected

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because you know like a lot of these

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these shows out there these

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investigative shows um there's just a

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very you know what was that back from

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commercial nothing and um it's just i

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think people are kind of tired of it

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they're sick of it you know being

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dragged along

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season after season but the one thing

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that expedition bigfoot has done from

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the very start is say you know if we

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don't find evidence we're not we're not

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gonna do this and you guys you you've

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just you've pulled out all the stops and

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i think three seasons in um you've gone

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further than most shows would ever ever

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try to do with this sort of stuff you

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technology that you're using to try to

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uncover bigfoot um

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and the scientists you speak to the

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government people uh it's just

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incredible um so i guess

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i guess kind of to start could you tell

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us a little about the team for those of

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the people in the audience who don't

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know about expedition bigfoot let's give

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them kind of the crash course on who's

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on your expedition team how this all

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came about and yeah give us the origin

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story if you don't mind

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yeah no absolutely well the whole i mean

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the whole premise was from the get-go is

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um you know we're at it we're at a time

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and place where we have some of the most

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cutting-edge technology and it's and

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it's improving and um every every day so

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you know we just wanted to bring some of

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that technology to bear on what i call

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the bigfoot phenomenon and see if we

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could sort of crack this egg a little

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bit or at least move the ball forward um

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so it was always about using um the most

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cutting-edge latest technology equipped

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with an algorithm where we could dump in

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all kinds of material like you know

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everything from moon phases to date and

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times of sightings reportings what type

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of reportings did something did they see

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something did they hear something you

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know so all that fed in

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um which would spit out a hot spot where

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we could go and bring a team of

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researchers and actual scientists uh

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with sort of a boots on the ground

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mentality keeping one foot always

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grounded in science and and yeah so

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you know bigfoot evidence in the past as

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you spoke on a little bit has always

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come with a little bit of controversy

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and so you know we just want to make

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sure that we dot our t's uh i mean dot

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our eyes cross our t's and uh you know

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do a great job using accredited labs and

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and and getting that evidence analyzed

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and and man i gotta tell you you know in

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the in the three years we've been doing

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this some of the experts i've been able

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to speak to has just it's been an

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incredible experience and it's really

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expanded my perspective and opinion on

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on what the bigfoot phenomenon is

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right and i mean

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we all know uh that you know you had an

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interest in bigfoot before the show came

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about it wasn't just like it fell in

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your lap like you'd been working your

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ass off for years uh looking into

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this scripted i mean you were in a

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bigfoot movie you have a bigfoot themed

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podcast so um yeah i guess

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how how does it feel you know finally

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being vindicated finally being like this

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this is something that true science can

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look at and um there's something to it

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not only that but people are letting you

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go out in the field and actually like do

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this on their dying crazy it's like it's

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crazy it's crazy and you know what i

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gotta i gotta i gotta admit you know if

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you were to ask me 10 15 years ago what

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i would have been doing and and you

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would have told me i would have been you

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know looking for bigfoot on a travel

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channel show i probably would have

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laughed in your face but you know the

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universe is funny when you have a

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passion it moves things towards that

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passion to make it a reality and you

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previous question uh just to sort of

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give the the team intros a real quick

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shot just to let you know who's on the

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we have you know one of the greatest

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primatologists around her her name is dr

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moran mayer and she's a fulbright

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scholar she co-discovered the world's

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smallest primate uh in madagascar and

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she's a legitimate anthropologist

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primatologist and she's incredible she's

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incredibly courageous and brave and you

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jones but she just kicks ass and then

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former military sergeant in the army and

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he has an extensive career uh do doing

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that and hunting and survival skills

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he's been hunting all of his life

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tracking so i mean

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not only that but he's he's been

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researching bigfoot as well for the

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no one else wants to go and gets always

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gets those most incredible videos

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because you know and and to his point

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like he always says i want to go where

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people don't and bigfoot does you know

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and that's why i think he's always

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struck with a lot of those great

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opportunities to film these creatures in

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like to say with a special interest in

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bigfoot um you know help for cast some

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of the first trackways that came out of

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leemster park down there on the east

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coast and uh so he's been involved in

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bigfoot and and the paranormal for

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um for quite a long time and so we often

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um what this creature is what's taking

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place out here and you know and moray

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and i'll have great conversations about

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the legitimacy of of eyewitness reports

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and the science behind it and russell

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man you just

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point and tell him where to go

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and he and he could go anywhere and get

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a job done so it's a great team and you

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facilitate uh using contacts that i have

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and you know being able to reach out to

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technology companies and defense

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contractors and you know i i speak with

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a lot of the witnesses and try and put

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together a game plan to you know bring

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about the most success

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yeah well and i think that's what you

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guys do so well is you have people out

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in the field and you're kind of at the

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command center making sure everything's

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going according to plan and one of the

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things i really liked about this season

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and you have done this in the past as

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well is you know if they

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find some sort of noise out there in the

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field record it they can shoot it to you

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you can clean that thing up send it back

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it's like

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how it again like this is not what we've

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seen in expeditions like this before or

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or even investigative shows like you

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guys have the technology to finally try

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to uncover this mystery and it seems

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like you know you're getting closer and

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closer every step of the way it's just

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and we're going to go over a lot of that

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evidence price but all right

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yeah yeah i'm excited i do want to say

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we have um bigfoot society here saying

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the yes the skull

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we'll get to that yeah yeah but

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definitely a fan definitely a fad

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bigfoot society um coolest thing they've

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done in a long time i have to agree um

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tate here says hello bryce we got a lot

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of expedition fans oh that's great man

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shout out to tate shout out to bigfoot

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society love those guys man that's great

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awesome um well let's talk about

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evidence bryce no um

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this expedition this season actually

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like why that happened um well why don't

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we start there first actually you know

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we started in one place at the beginning

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of the season and ended up in another

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and this kind of had to do with

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something that you you came across so

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would you mind telling our audience a

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little about what brought you from

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washington to california

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sure well the season the season really

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starts in in washington which i think

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you know uh out of all the states in the

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united states gets more bigfoot

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sightings uh per capita than anywhere

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else so you know the first half of the

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show

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focuses our search uh on that olympic

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peninsula and then of course uh halfway

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through you know um we want to you know

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change gears and go right to the uh

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epicenter of where the whole sort of

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bigfoot phenomenon got started and

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that's in northern california and i

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guess in the back of my mind i always

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knew we wanted to go there because

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i mean i always wanted to look at that

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patterson gimlin film site one more time

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and we were able to do that uh in this

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in this year which was a really a real

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highlight for me and i'd love to love to

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talk about that a little bit more later

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on but um yeah so we made the move to

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california and look we're always trying

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to follow

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uh a lead whether it's whether it's a a

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hair that's telling us maybe we should

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go here or or a recent eyewitness report

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um so you know we're always trying to

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keep an open mind but that being said

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it's it's a it's a real logistical

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challenge to up and and and switch gears

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like that but i think it paid off man

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yeah yeah it definitely did again it's

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amazing like the two types of evidence

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you're finding in both places which

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obviously begs the question you know

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we're not dealing with one

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possible cryptid in one area like these

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could be

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different places where these things

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plural actually

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hide out in um and that even brings us

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up to

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you know future expeditions as well

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which yeah

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yeah i know i mean it big it begs so

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many questions too right like i mean if

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these creatures sort of exist in groups

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uh

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you know are are they separate from

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other groups and i guess one thing i

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find always so fascinating is all the

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different types of these creatures that

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are reported from from the west coast

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all the way to the east coast so keep

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that in mind when you're trying to like

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figure out what's really taking place

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here because could there really be that

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many different types of subspecies of

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sasquatch or bigfoot i don't know it's

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possible could they be that well adapted

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to their environment that they're

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actually uh you know

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growing along in that environment

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different from like how you would at the

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in the pacific northwest you know i'm

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thinking of the differences of like you

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know you get a lot of reports of the the

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skunk ape down in florida which is very

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different from the type of bigfoot

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reports you get in the pacific northwest

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so

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very interested in too because i mean

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can there can there be that many bigfoot

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species what's really what's really

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going on here

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yeah very good question yeah we're going

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to talk about one in pennsylvania a

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little later that really intrigues me um

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but

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let's i guess let's dive into the

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evidence this season great wherever you

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want to start bryce there are a lot of

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compelling things throughout the entire

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season um but if there's anywhere you

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really want to start where this was like

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you know the moment where you're like oh

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man we're really up in the ante this

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season and we're really onto something

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did anything really stand out to you

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from maybe the earlier part of the

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season um you know i'm kind of i'm

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actually pulling up some of my notes

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right now but you know the first thing

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the first thing off of my the top of my

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head is just that

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you know i i that shadow creature that

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was captured that shadow whatever that

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was captured in washington um it really

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had all of our heads spinning and uh

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and so i'd really like to to know what

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that was all about because there are

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you know native legends that do sort of

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ascribe these qualities to

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to the stick man or bigfoot like type

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creatures so that was we weren't

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expecting to capture something like that

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and then

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you know of of course for me

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my favorite evidence is always russell's

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videos it's always you know i always

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think it's going to be the vocalizations

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because i really get a kick out out of

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those because like you said we try to

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source

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uh sounds that come from that area so

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that we can play them back and uh

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that it seemed to have worked in the

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past but uh man that that that video

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that russell captured in in california

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of whatever that was standing up i mean

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i'm still sort of yeah you're going

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through some of this stuff right here um

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this video for anyone yeah and you can

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watch the whole season now on amazon

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range

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it was the weirdest thing ever like at

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first you're like okay maybe it's a bear

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or something

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and then the thing stands up on two feet

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and starts walking up the mountain it

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was crazy and it still could be a bear

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bears are known to like walk on their

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hind legs but this this one just felt

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different to me something about my gut

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was like it just felt like this creature

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was possibly observing russell which is

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amazing because he's so far away and if

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you'll see in the show russell always

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has some great toys that he brings on

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his own i try and provide him as much

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tech as possible but let me tell you

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something his truck is usually filled to

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the brim with the coolest gear anyway so

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he's got this little this powerful scope

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where he could record off of his his

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iphone and man you see it right here

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when i first saw this and i still watch

430
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this video and i just kind of go

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that's got to be a bigfoot right i mean

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unless it's just

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a bear or or something else but to me

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that's that's what we're hunting man

435
00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:00,079
it's right there and russell captured it

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on his video

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yep yeah i mean again russ is willing to

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sort of go anywhere

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he can even places you probably don't

440
00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:10,079
want him to go there was another moment

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this season where we almost lost him i

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mean that was terrifying man yeah well

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this is a tunnel and then boom that's

444
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right this is sort of your area of

445
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expertise uh covering the ufo and uap

446
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phenomenon so uh for your listeners who

447
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don't know we've been doing this the

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last three years and and we've sort of

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encountered these balls of light in just

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about every place we've went and uh and

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it's very strange and i for one am

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starting to feel that these

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balls of light are somehow some way

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connected with the bigfoot phenomenon

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and i i know i'm probably not the only

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one to think that but

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you know there has to be a connection uh

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yeah to to reference what you were

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talking about yeah russell sees this

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strange ball of light just sort of

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you know sentiently floating along

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in the distance and it and it seems to

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be leading his way because if you're out

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there in the field you're gonna look for

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whatever pops and so if you see a

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strange meandering ball of light you're

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gonna follow that you know

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and uh

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russell did and it almost let him off of

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a hundred foot cliff so i mean he's

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going right through this steel it must

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have been a drain pipe or something he

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can see the light at the end and man he

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just comes to a dead end uh sheer drop

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on a on a face cliff so

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you know i've spoken with witnesses who

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say

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you know when you hear a bigfoot scream

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or or sound like a woman scream or a

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baby screaming or you see a strange

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light you know these things are trying

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to lure you into the woods into the

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forest and it and it does seem to be

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like that like that might be what

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happening here

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and it brings up a lot of questions to

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me you know for your listeners who

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aren't following all the the bigfoot

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00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:58,960
stuff there's a whole bigfoot topic on

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the bookshelf that discusses sort of

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missing persons cases and how they might

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be related to

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let's say a creature like bigfoot

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missing people that

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that go missing in national parks and

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have very odd circumstances surrounding

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those disappearances is there a

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connection to bigfoot i i don't know but

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it's certainly worth investigating and

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uh but yeah so there's something about

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these things luring you into the woods

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and uh yeah

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pretty interesting yeah yeah i i think

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you know and we have to keep in mind too

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like while you are hunting this uh

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mysterious creature there are many

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creatures out there that could be just

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as

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dangerous and we do see that in this

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season as well you guys aren't like

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it's not like you're telling all the

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wildlife step back we're hunting bigfoot

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like you are in their playground right

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listen bears are on my mind i don't know

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for me it's bears i i guess uh i think

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maybe russell has the thing about

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mountain lion something quietly stalking

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from behind but yeah we're out there and

519
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,559
look at we're pushing into places in the

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woods where a lot of people really don't

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go so we're we're we're butting up right

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against uh wildlife territory and and

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paths and so

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of course we're gonna you know that's

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always on my mind i'm not as you know i

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don't have as much experience in the

527
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field as these guys but i'll tell you

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one thing when when you have a camera

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behind you it gives me a sense of

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courage i'm like well i'm not gonna back

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out now i gotta i gotta keep going

532
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forward you know but there's been some

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pretty hairy moments on the show that's

534
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for sure

535
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yeah yeah and even your cameramen have

536
00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:39,360
become part of the story a lot of times

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where you know usually these people

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blend back in into the uh the background

539
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but they are there with you guys doing

540
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this and i i give them all the credit in

541
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the world i know there's many on your

542
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:52,720
camera crew and production and

543
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,120
i i there's so many people involved with

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these types of things and they become a

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part of it as well i think we we should

546
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:02,559
keep that in mind like nobody's safe

547
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,000
just because there's a camera there

548
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:06,240
doesn't mean oh yeah you know that that

549
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,880
something bad can't happen so oh yeah

550
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:11,039
listen to your entire crew

551
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,799
and not all of them are believers and

552
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,960
rightfully so they shouldn't be but so

553
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:16,559
there's this like thing that happens

554
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,080
like when we're you know when when

555
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:19,919
something occurs we kind of look to our

556
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,000
like did you see that what's that what

557
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,840
do you think that is huh

558
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:25,600
and a lot of the times they're like man

559
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,280
i don't know man let me just

560
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:29,440
give it a shot but uh yeah no they've

561
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,799
really become a part of the show and

562
00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:32,080
they're they're listen they're on this

563
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,000
journey with us and they're experiencing

564
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,240
a lot of these things that we are so

565
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,080
um they are a heart let me tell you

566
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,320
something they are a hard-working

567
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,320
talented bunch uh

568
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,080
shout out to this expedition bigfoot

569
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,240
crew because they work their asses off

570
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,640
and they're just so damn talented the

571
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:50,880
the show looks that way because of these

572
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,960
guys so i

573
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:54,480
it's important to have a visual

574
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,320
experience i want you to be on your

575
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,559
couch and feeling like we're dragging

576
00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,799
you into the middle of the woods with us

577
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,240
and all you have to do is sit there and

578
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,760
eat your popcorn

579
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,240
yep yep and look at this beautiful

580
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:08,400
scenery i mean some of the drone shots

581
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:10,840
you guys do in this thing are just

582
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:13,600
breathtaking are incredible

583
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,880
let's i want to go back to this for a

584
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:18,960
moment forgive me i'm still getting used

585
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:21,280
to this program there we go um so this

586
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:22,799
was one of the first things that really

587
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:24,320
caught my attention in the season and

588
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,039
that was these nests and could you maybe

589
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:28,960
describe what these are what they

590
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:31,360
represent to us bryce and why they were

591
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,280
so important in terms of the expedition

592
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:34,640
this season

593
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:37,679
yeah absolutely so this thing about

594
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,120
bigfoot nests have sort of become a key

595
00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:43,440
piece of what we might consider evidence

596
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:45,760
and uh you know as we said in the show

597
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,600
it's it's it's a primate behavior

598
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:50,400
because guerrillas actually will make a

599
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,760
bed of nest a nest much like this only

600
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:55,679
they make a new one every day which

601
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,440
would which i was surprised by but

602
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:59,120
anyway

603
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:02,240
the camera does not do this and this

604
00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:04,240
nest justice it's hard to see but when

605
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:07,120
you're there it looks almost as if big

606
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,400
bird from sesame street made a nest out

607
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,960
of the forest pine around you and that's

608
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,960
what it looks like with your eyes you

609
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,480
know and when you step on it when i

610
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:18,799
first stepped on it i almost twisted my

611
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,520
ankle because i went so far down i went

612
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:23,520
almost like a foot and a half two feet

613
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,320
of just like cushion and i just stepped

614
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:28,159
right in it and it released this pocket

615
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,760
of air that just let out this stench

616
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,360
and so these are like

617
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,320
this idea that these things are you know

618
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:38,960
possibly using nests to bed down and

619
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:41,360
just hang out is not a new idea there's

620
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:42,640
been um

621
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,240
you know a project based out of

622
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,240
washington that has been looking into

623
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,960
this idea of of bigfoot nesting sites

624
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,039
for quite some time and they've got a

625
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,840
lot of really compelling evidence but um

626
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,919
you know i was it's incredible that we

627
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,320
were able to find these two

628
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:00,720
um but there's no doubt about it when

629
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:03,440
you see them and and when and when you

630
00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:05,679
smell them and of course we took edna

631
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:07,279
samples which also

632
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,840
um released some pretty confounding and

633
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:12,159
interesting information as well

634
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:15,360
yeah right we will definitely get to the

635
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,720
dna tests a little bit later um right

636
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:20,400
and it's up to you how much you want to

637
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:22,880
reveal bryce we'll we'll see but um

638
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,880
let's move on to

639
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:27,120
all right this was another one that

640
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:30,720
really caught my attention yeah um yeah

641
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:33,279
what what is this what am i looking at

642
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,000
man that is a that looks like a huge

643
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,720
footprint to me and it's about according

644
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:40,799
to the measurements about 16 and a half

645
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:42,880
which is right in that wheelhouse of

646
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:45,520
what a of what a big foot footprint

647
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:48,799
should be but for your audience lest we

648
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:50,799
forget this is just a picture of a

649
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:53,760
footprint but when you put into context

650
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,000
of how this shot came to be you start to

651
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,480
understand the story that's taking place

652
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:00,400
russell and his cameraman zach were

653
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,279
pushing something up the riverbed uh

654
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:05,039
choking it out and they were tracking

655
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,640
what they believed was a bigfoot they

656
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:08,640
could hear the sounds they believed they

657
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,360
were hot on the trail

658
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:13,520
they were up on a bridge when they heard

659
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:16,159
something down below zach his russell's

660
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:18,240
cameraman looks over he thinks he might

661
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:20,799
have saw the tail end of this hairy

662
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,360
creature going around the riverbed so he

663
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,919
thinks he got eyes on whatever made this

664
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,039
foot track

665
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:29,360
russell repels down that bridge

666
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:32,480
which i mean he does in great time but

667
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,400
obviously enough time for something to

668
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,080
get away because you know night

669
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,480
nightfall happened anyway he tracked it

670
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:40,080
and this is the one of the first things

671
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:43,600
he came upon and uh yeah it's just it's

672
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,240
a chef's kiss big footprint man and uh

673
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:48,799
yeah you know we had that analyzed by dr

674
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,520
jeffrey meldrum um who took a pretty

675
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:53,760
good look at it and and and it passed

676
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,840
his

677
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,360
mustard that's enough for me that is

678
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:58,960
definitely enough for me

679
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,360
um all right you gotta explain this to

680
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:03,840
me man this is a discovery you made

681
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:07,600
under water um what was this all about

682
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,760
this is witchy right i don't like this

683
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,360
this is just uh

684
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:13,360
you know i was investigating a lake

685
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:16,240
where there was a lot of activity and

686
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:17,200
uh

687
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:19,039
you know of course

688
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,200
you know we know we're always gonna be

689
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,000
near water because if these creatures

690
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,559
and everything you know survives on

691
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,400
water so we have this incredible

692
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,400
submersible drone i was dying to use i

693
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:32,400
was like we will use this drone in the

694
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:34,799
lake and we will i don't know

695
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,960
and you know a couple three four hours

696
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,559
later of cruising that thing around and

697
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,400
trying to untangle it and get it out of

698
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,640
you know finally get it moving you just

699
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:44,240
sort of you find this thing and you're

700
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,520
like

701
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:47,840
what the heck is that you know i mean it

702
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:49,039
looks

703
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:50,320
i don't know it just

704
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:53,520
looks made like it clears made this was

705
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,120
this is artificial

706
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:56,880
it looks artificial i never pulled it

707
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:58,960
out of the lake i never i never did

708
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,279
anything like that which is i sort of

709
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:03,360
regret because it'd be great to pull see

710
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:04,640
if i can pull some more evidence off

711
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,760
that but to me it just looked very like

712
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,679
i don't know you know you run across a

713
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:11,039
lot of these

714
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:12,240
what what's known in the bigfoot

715
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,400
community is these these structures the

716
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:16,880
or these ornate tree structures and a

717
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:18,399
lot of the times

718
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:19,440
you know

719
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,799
these trees are 14 15 24 inches in

720
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,480
diameter they're huge and they're just

721
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,799
placed way high in

722
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,279
and in these geometric shapes and they

723
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:30,880
crisscross and

724
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:33,679
uh to me they represent some sort of

725
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,320
communicative sign i'm not sure what

726
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,559
they are saying but

727
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:40,640
they seem to be a way of communicating

728
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:44,399
territory ideas information to other uh

729
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:47,679
passing bigfoot groups or whatever but

730
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:50,000
um i don't know i've seen smaller ones

731
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:50,880
and

732
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:53,120
could this possibly be

733
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,240
uh

734
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:56,080
you know something made by a creature

735
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:57,679
like a bigfoot i mean if they're making

736
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,120
these big structures who's to say

737
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,520
they're not also making you know tiny

738
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,760
doll like structures happens

739
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,960
in um

740
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,120
you know all over the world in in

741
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,480
ancient

742
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,559
you know people they're always making

743
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,720
you know things so i don't know this was

744
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:14,720
but this to me was very witchy i got a

745
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,720
bad feeling about this whatever the hell

746
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,000
it was so

747
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:20,159
yeah yeah yeah i'm going to stay clear

748
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:22,399
of that one um this is all right

749
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,520
but um

750
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,760
underground bunkers was another thing

751
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:27,760
you guys touched on which i was not

752
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,000
expecting in a bigfoot show would you

753
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:31,679
mind maybe running us a little through

754
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:35,039
that price this um sort of weird secret

755
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,559
governmental

756
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:38,480
stuff that you guys looked at this

757
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,440
season

758
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,200
yeah well we weren't expecting it either

759
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,440
but we talked to a witness who told us

760
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,720
that you know

761
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,399
he was at a christmas party where a

762
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:48,880
buddy who was working on some secretive

763
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,640
project out west said you know hey man

764
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,640
i check out these he showed him pictures

765
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,600
of these uh bigfoots and trees and these

766
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,520
research bunkers and

767
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:01,679
this was in the 70s by the way

768
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,559
and

769
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,320
but that was information that basically

770
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:07,039
said there was obviously some type of

771
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,679
funded program whether it was private or

772
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,600
government i'm not sure but some type of

773
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,440
program invested in

774
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,799
researching

775
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,200
bigfoots in the pacific northwest and

776
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,360
and using hideouts like underground

777
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:21,440
bunkers as command centers

778
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:22,399
uh

779
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,279
so

780
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:25,760
when you have information like that it's

781
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,559
great information because now with

782
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:31,520
technology today i can fly a drone over

783
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,720
with lidar over a certain area and i can

784
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,279
look for telltale signs of man-made

785
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:39,120
structures in an area you know so this

786
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:40,480
is something that you can check and

787
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:43,679
verify um and that's exactly what we did

788
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,880
and uh we were able to find some

789
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,559
what looked like anomalous structures

790
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,559
that did support that evidence but

791
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:52,399
unfortunately we weren't able to get

792
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,520
into them so um so again it's this

793
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:57,520
blurry line which i think we're starting

794
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:58,320
to

795
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:59,520
you know

796
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,120
uncover a little bit more and look at

797
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,880
into more is

798
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:04,559
what does the government know about

799
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:07,279
bigfoot you know and you know this is a

800
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:09,200
very interesting field where we start to

801
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,880
cross because we're at a time and a

802
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,679
place for your listeners where we're now

803
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,760
sort of government has had had their

804
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:17,760
hand forced into

805
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,240
uh revealing what their programs that

806
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,480
they had and their interest in ufo and

807
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,240
now we know well of course the

808
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,080
government is interested in ufos and of

809
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:27,679
course they're spending money and

810
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:30,720
earmarking money for these programs and

811
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,520
uh

812
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,279
but the bigfoot cat is not out of the

813
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:35,120
bag yet we don't know you know they've

814
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:36,880
nev their hand hasn't been forced like

815
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,159
that new york times article you know uh

816
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,559
the great journalists on that basically

817
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,399
had their evidence at hand to say hey

818
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:45,840
we're running this story whether you

819
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:47,679
like it or not you know we don't have

820
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:50,559
that in the bigfoot community yet but i

821
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,240
don't know i wouldn't be surprised if

822
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,960
you know five ten years down the road uh

823
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,480
you may be seeing the new york times

824
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,559
cover some bigfoot story

825
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:00,960
yeah yeah that's a good way to put it

826
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,960
man i think like you said it's forcing

827
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,240
the hand of the government they're never

828
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:07,200
going to disclose anything uh willingly

829
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:09,840
and it took us decades and decades to

830
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,320
finally make that happen with with ufos

831
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:14,000
so i have no doubt there's been

832
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,679
government programs we know for a fact

833
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:17,919
there were some government yeah

834
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:20,720
involvement with bigfoot and testing uh

835
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:23,279
hair and whatnot from certain events and

836
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,480
we're going to go over some of those

837
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:26,640
later that the us air force looked at

838
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:28,880
during project blue book of all things

839
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:31,039
but and yeah i mean just think about

840
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,880
what their interests would be i mean a

841
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:35,600
lot of our greatest military technology

842
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,840
came from nature this the the skin on a

843
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,320
submarine comes from that of a shark so

844
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:42,159
imagine what you could do if you're

845
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,559
you're hearing rumors about creatures

846
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,399
out west that can camouflage

847
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:48,799
and cloak and move silently through

848
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:52,000
areas and you know use things like mind

849
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:53,840
speak and what type of powers of the

850
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:55,600
mind do they have we know the government

851
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,799
is very interested in in the mind powers

852
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:00,559
of the human being and they've studied

853
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,360
that could they be interested in in in

854
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,519
powers that these creatures may have why

855
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,760
not you know if we could if we could

856
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,360
pull that and use it for some type of

857
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:11,360
military apparatus i think that would be

858
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:12,480
great but

859
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,080
let's not put the cart before the horse

860
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,399
first thing we got to do is is is prove

861
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,640
that these creatures do in fact exist on

862
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:21,120
a flesh and blood plane so and i think

863
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,039
that's going to be a pretty a pretty

864
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:25,440
tough thing to do

865
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:27,919
it is but you know i mean you guys are

866
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,320
getting closer and closer to discovering

867
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,640
if this is flesh and blood or if this is

868
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:33,840
something

869
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:36,880
supernatural or extra terrestrial you

870
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:39,760
know you we will go down that road uh

871
00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:42,640
for sure but i think like you said first

872
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:45,039
is proving that these things actually

873
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:48,159
exist and um i'd love to know bryce

874
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:50,960
there were several dna samples that you

875
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,440
guys collected this season from

876
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,399
different areas and in different ways

877
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,399
would you mind maybe running us through

878
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:00,399
uh there were two key

879
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:03,519
i think dna results that you guys uh

880
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,000
revealed in your special your post show

881
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,480
special um could you tell us a little

882
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,960
about how these samples were collected

883
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:13,360
and uh where they went off to be to be

884
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:14,799
reviewed

885
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,679
yeah absolutely so um

886
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:19,360
the first hair you're probably talking

887
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:21,840
about the edna sample is was pulled from

888
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,279
the nesting site and uh the edna that

889
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,159
probably was significant in a strange

890
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,399
way was that hair that russell russell

891
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,399
made this cool tracker that would you

892
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,760
know and he stuck it on a branch

893
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:35,600
anything passing by it

894
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:37,360
you know he placed it higher than a bear

895
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,519
would be so at like eight seven foot

896
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:41,279
anything passing by with hair would grab

897
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:42,720
this tracker

898
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:45,840
anyway we pulled uh dna off of that

899
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,279
and uh

900
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:49,120
you know

901
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:50,640
the thing about

902
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,000
bigfoot and and and and dna is is is

903
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,799
sort of a long sorted controversial

904
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:58,159
history so

905
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,559
we're really at at sort of the ground

906
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,559
level with e-dna which stands for

907
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,399
environmental dna

908
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,559
and uh and you know so we're being very

909
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:07,919
careful with that and what i mean by

910
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:10,720
that is so when we were out in kentucky

911
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,520
we found this strange tree structure and

912
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,159
of course uh dr mayer took an edna

913
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,720
sample and uh we sent it off to

914
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,679
accredited lab here in l.a and it came

915
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,359
back showing

916
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:25,919
these pantroglidite indicators

917
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,320
pantroglidite is the species genus name

918
00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,480
for the chimpanzee

919
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:32,159
and so it was

920
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,440
it was one of those moments where we

921
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:35,599
were like wait a minute what the heck

922
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,399
how is how is there chimpanzee dna at

923
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,000
this tree structure i mean unless

924
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,040
there's an escaped chimpanzee from a zoo

925
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:45,040
or like what's happening here

926
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:46,079
um

927
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,159
you know we share most of our dna our

928
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,240
closest living relative is that of the

929
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:52,399
orangutan and the chimpanzee i mean it's

930
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,040
a miniscule difference uh the

931
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:57,839
differences between our dna but anyway

932
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:58,800
um

933
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:01,119
you know that sent us here's some

934
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:02,720
evidence that's telling us you know

935
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:04,800
you're getting some primate hits here

936
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:06,640
what's going on with that

937
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,520
um we actually sent dr mayer back to

938
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,599
conduct kentucky because science doesn't

939
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:13,920
work like that it has to be repeatable

940
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,760
she took another sample

941
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:17,760
again that pantroglydeity did come up

942
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:20,000
but not nearly in the high numbers that

943
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,680
it did the first time so

944
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,920
that was a little discouraging but i

945
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:25,520
guess the hair that you might be talking

946
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,760
about was so obviously we pulled eden

947
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,520
i'm sorry dna

948
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,920
uh we pulled edna samples from those

949
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,599
nesting sites

950
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:35,680
and while we didn't get any we did get

951
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:38,640
some sort of orang uh indicators which

952
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,480
is another

953
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,040
thing that's like what uh yeah they were

954
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:45,359
very they were very small

955
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,160
but what we did find uh was a hair at

956
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,160
the nest um

957
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,480
that uh on that chain

958
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:54,480
uh the chain link fence

959
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,440
and it was that of this species of wolf

960
00:36:04,230 --> 00:35:59,680
that is really only found in the alaskan

961
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:04,240
panhandle southeastern alaska and so

962
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,359
we're like

963
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,440
how the f does that get here in

964
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,960
california

965
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,400
right it doesn't make any sense

966
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:12,960
whatsoever because it's a it's a very

967
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:15,359
small population of these of these

968
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:16,400
wolves

969
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,079
um i forget the name of it i'm not even

970
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,560
gonna try it but uh

971
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:22,880
but anyway so

972
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,079
i mean

973
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:26,800
right there it was kind of like telling

974
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,520
us you know hey maybe there's something

975
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:31,200
here because

976
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,880
a lot of reports are not a lot of

977
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:34,560
reports there are a few reports where

978
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:35,760
people do

979
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,119
describe these creatures wearing furs

980
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,440
whether it's deer pelts whether it's

981
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,280
bear uh

982
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:45,760
wolf you know so there there are these

983
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:48,560
reports where people say you know

984
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,079
bigfoot wears its kill wears furs it

985
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,720
uses its environment sometimes

986
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:56,000
and so

987
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:58,160
i thought why couldn't you know a

988
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,000
bigfoot with

989
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:02,400
probably this uh

990
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,480
this strange wolf pill down here and

991
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,320
that's how that hair got there it's the

992
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,320
only thing i could think of dr mario

993
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,400
wasn't too fancy on that's a big stretch

994
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:12,400
for her but but it gave us what we

995
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:14,560
needed to kind of you know move the

996
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:16,640
search north and of course as we

997
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,200
revealed on the show uh that's all we

998
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:21,040
needed to take it to alaska where

999
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,480
there's so many

1000
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:24,880
um real interesting reports about about

1001
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:27,760
bigfoot so it felt very natural

1002
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,320
i can't wait man that's like again

1003
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,400
untapped territory i think one of the

1004
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:34,800
members of your team mentioned like

1005
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,160
such diverse life lives up in alaska a

1006
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:40,079
lot of things we probably haven't even

1007
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:41,920
discovered yet so i can't even imagine

1008
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:43,359
what you guys will uncover there yeah

1009
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:46,720
it's crazy yeah imagine imagine just the

1010
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:49,359
acres where human feet have never even

1011
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,320
tread across there's got to be just

1012
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:54,079
hundreds of thousands of them there in

1013
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:56,079
alaska you know um

1014
00:38:01,829 --> 00:37:59,200
it's just the place is huge and

1015
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:01,839
and the the lore of bigfoot

1016
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:04,640
in places like that are so steeped in

1017
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:06,800
the culture that it just you know you

1018
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,040
can walk into a place and people be like

1019
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:12,000
bigfoot yeah yeah bigfoot of course you

1020
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:13,520
know and you're like oh wow i didn't

1021
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,280
okay why why why that you know um so

1022
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:19,280
it's a great place and i think it's it's

1023
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,160
a natural fit for for our team

1024
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,480
i love it well you talked about untapped

1025
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,040
territory um that was another pretty

1026
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:29,440
cool and i guess sort of controversial

1027
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:32,720
thing this season was um you guys were

1028
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:36,560
tracking something and it ended up on

1029
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:39,680
what we now know as federal land an area

1030
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,760
that you guys are not allowed to go

1031
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,359
investigate and i've actually run into

1032
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:45,680
that problem with investigating ufo

1033
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,000
cases as well where there were areas

1034
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,079
where i was told that something crashed

1035
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,960
or a creature had been seen it

1036
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,599
might have died been buried or maybe

1037
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:58,160
debris from a craft was there and i

1038
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:59,920
wanted to go there and dig and i was

1039
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:01,760
told no you can't it's federal land

1040
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,880
sorry about that um i even worked with a

1041
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,640
a gentleman who

1042
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,320
thought he found stuff at the roswell

1043
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:10,720
site and they actually confiscated it

1044
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:12,800
from him because it is now owned by the

1045
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,839
government so well um i'd love to maybe

1046
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:17,520
hear a little about what you guys dealt

1047
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:19,520
with with that if you don't mind

1048
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,520
well sure i mean what think about the

1049
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:23,920
perfect bureaucratic red tape all you

1050
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,480
would need is own a small parcel land to

1051
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,119
keep anyone off of it and and

1052
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,599
of course obtain anything found

1053
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:34,079
uh there on you know

1054
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,440
here's the thing and i don't want to be

1055
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,599
very conspiratorial you know because i'm

1056
00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:40,079
not that i'm not that type of guy but

1057
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,839
but

1058
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,920
um here's the thing you know

1059
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:45,680
it seems like there was a lot of bigfoot

1060
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:48,079
activity in this area and we got

1061
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,760
information that

1062
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,000
when i talked to that logger who told me

1063
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,160
he had stumbled upon what it could only

1064
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:57,119
be described as a bigfoot nesting site

1065
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:58,960
it was something he had never seen

1066
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:01,200
before he described like almost a dozen

1067
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:03,760
beds in this you know

1068
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,880
place

1069
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:06,560
uh that was

1070
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,640
then uh acquired by some federal land

1071
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,880
grab you know and why why was that you

1072
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:14,960
know we were we were interested in why

1073
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,319
why is

1074
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:17,760
why the government would be interested

1075
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:20,480
in a piece of property like that so

1076
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,839
i don't know it just sent off some red

1077
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:24,240
flags for us that like you know if

1078
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,319
obviously i believe if these creatures

1079
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:28,079
do in fact exist they're incredibly

1080
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,280
intelligent

1081
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,760
and uh like a lot of places that are

1082
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:33,440
that are you know cordoned off for

1083
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:36,079
wildlife to thrive like yellowstone if

1084
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:38,720
bigfoot knows that no hunters no

1085
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,960
researchers no investigators are going

1086
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:42,319
to come into this

1087
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,280
huge parcel of land why wouldn't they go

1088
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,800
there uh

1089
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,200
you know for complete protection

1090
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:51,280
um so i don't know it's interesting and

1091
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,280
yeah like you said they're

1092
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:55,680
i don't know there are earmarked budgets

1093
00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:58,240
for for land acquisition

1094
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,319
where certain crafts have been said to

1095
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:02,319
come and land and i don't know it's a

1096
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:04,800
strange thing uh it is yeah but it's

1097
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:07,839
something we're interested in you know

1098
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,800
cool cool well yeah i hope i hope we can

1099
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:13,040
further that conversation when it comes

1100
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,480
to the government's involvement with

1101
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:17,599
bigfoot for sure um sure well i wanna i

1102
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:19,599
wanna touch on this image and for those

1103
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,480
of you

1104
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:22,880
listening to the podcast this is an

1105
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:25,040
image of bryce with it looks like he

1106
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:28,240
just got the best christmas present oh

1107
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,440
man

1108
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,119
would you mind describing what we're

1109
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,040
seeing here man and kind of the process

1110
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:35,280
of uh what's going on in these images

1111
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,160
here

1112
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,240
yeah of course so i you know i spoke

1113
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,240
with a witness who who got a

1114
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,160
face-to-face encounter with a bigfoot

1115
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,800
that lasted quite a long time and with

1116
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,119
that comes a lot of memory detail of

1117
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:49,040
what this creature looked like so we set

1118
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,160
him down

1119
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:52,720
uh with an incredible forensic sketch

1120
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,680
artist oh my god his name is uh mike i

1121
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:57,200
gotta find it because you should follow

1122
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,480
him on ins i mean he does this um his

1123
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,720
passion is you know drawing sketching

1124
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:05,119
these eyewitness accounts of bigfoot

1125
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,640
reports anyway

1126
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,079
from all that information i was like

1127
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:10,160
there's so much here why not just get

1128
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:11,920
the skull made you know and that's

1129
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,640
exactly what we did we sent it off to uh

1130
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,560
to a guy out there and i think it was

1131
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:18,880
scotland i forget but uh

1132
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:20,960
his name was tobias uh

1133
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,880
dang i i wish i don't i wish i had those

1134
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:24,880
names on the tip of my tongue but anyway

1135
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,240
he was able to graft a 3d model of just

1136
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,800
from that sketch what this bigfoot head

1137
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,560
and its proportions would look like and

1138
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:34,720
when you hold it in your hand

1139
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,119
you feel like you're holding a piece of

1140
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,160
our ancestral history in some way some

1141
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:42,960
form you're like yes

1142
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:45,359
this this roamed planet earth or still

1143
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,640
does it's a strange feeling um and it's

1144
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,200
huge and and the and the crazy the

1145
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,280
picture that you're looking at that has

1146
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:55,680
hair michael montoya thank you bigfoot

1147
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,319
society if you're out there follow

1148
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:00,640
michael montoya on instagram he has an

1149
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:03,200
incredible page and uh you'll just get

1150
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,040
to see a whole variety of what these

1151
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,599
bigfoot creatures um have been reported

1152
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:09,599
to look like but yeah so this one they

1153
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,319
added hair in the face and it's a little

1154
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:14,240
funny at first but when you start

1155
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,079
peering into the eyes

1156
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,160
you sort of then put yourself in the

1157
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,560
position of what would i do

1158
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:22,880
if i was say hiking with my son or my

1159
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,599
daughter or my wife or my dog and i'm in

1160
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,520
the middle of nowhere i'm on a pretty

1161
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:29,359
populated trail

1162
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,720
and uh you know it's getting dark and up

1163
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,599
ahead something like this

1164
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:38,160
walks onto the trail and stops and just

1165
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,680
stares at you you know

1166
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:43,040
what would you do

1167
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,560
what would your mind

1168
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,680
do

1169
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,920
because

1170
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:50,000
these reports happen

1171
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,280
all the time

1172
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,200
and the people who reporting them are

1173
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,520
not looking for fame they're not looking

1174
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:58,160
to make money um as a matter of fact

1175
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,440
they're risking more than they're

1176
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,880
acquiring they're risking their

1177
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,240
reputation

1178
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,640
uh you know they're they're risking you

1179
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,240
know being

1180
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,400
laughed at by their friends family and

1181
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:11,040
peers for being one of those people who

1182
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:13,920
saw bigfoot but it happens all the time

1183
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,599
and you know you often hear that

1184
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,520
when somebody sees a creature like this

1185
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:21,440
if they're a hunter and they see what

1186
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:23,040
you're looking at through the scope they

1187
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,720
can't pull that trigger

1188
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,480
because they they recognize this

1189
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,880
humanness in these faces and and i guess

1190
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:29,760
that's

1191
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,920
bigfoot what is this thing is it is it

1192
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:35,760
part of our story is it something

1193
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,240
completely separate from us does it

1194
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,720
represent our past like the small gray

1195
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,119
alien represents our future

1196
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,280
um because you know there is a very

1197
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:47,280
psychological dimension to this thing

1198
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,599
here too to this and that's why i do

1199
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:51,760
house it under the i couch it under the

1200
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:54,319
term bigfoot phenomenon

1201
00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:55,359
because

1202
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,079
as as very real as these eyewitness

1203
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,000
testimonies are of just a flesh and

1204
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,720
blood creature walking across a trail i

1205
00:45:07,390 --> 00:45:04,800
also talked to very credible witnesses

1206
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:07,400
who described these creatures

1207
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:09,200
dematerializing

1208
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,160
communicating them with mind speak

1209
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,480
so i call this type of stuff the

1210
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,119
stranger aspects of big footery and i

1211
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:18,960
don't want to discount it

1212
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,400
in these small details that i think

1213
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,079
we're going to get to the bottom of what

1214
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,640
this mystery really is and trust me when

1215
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:28,800
i say this there is a mystery at play

1216
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:32,640
here on this planet when it comes to

1217
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:35,119
wild hairy men walking around in the

1218
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,079
woods

1219
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:38,480
now is this a psychological archetype or

1220
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:41,119
is there a real unconfirmed

1221
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,560
uh

1222
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,480
relic dominant walking the pacific

1223
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,400
northwest i don't know but something is

1224
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,040
happening people are seeing something

1225
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,599
evidence is being left behind

1226
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:53,280
and um

1227
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:55,599
and man to me it's just one of the the

1228
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,920
greatest mysteries at our dinner plate

1229
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,319
and and and to me that's why i just i

1230
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,240
just love this so much

1231
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,079
is because ever since i saw that

1232
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:06,480
patterson gimlin films film i i've

1233
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:08,880
always felt like i was looking

1234
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,640
at the monster under my bed that my

1235
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,720
parents told me wasn't supposed to be

1236
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:15,040
there but yet there it is

1237
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,440
walking off into the woods

1238
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,359
what is that

1239
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:21,839
i love that man yeah i've had those

1240
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,319
moments too of looking in the sky and

1241
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,480
seeing something i couldn't readily

1242
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:28,720
explain and being like i was told this

1243
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,520
wasn't a thing this wasn't real and but

1244
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:33,760
i'm looking at it so like someone's

1245
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,560
either lying to me or uh the world is

1246
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,480
far stranger than i could have ever

1247
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,319
imagined and everyone in the chat here

1248
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:43,200
saying preach preach bryce this idea of

1249
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,240
um

1250
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:46,720
the bigfoot being our past and the alien

1251
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,720
being our future and we're somehow

1252
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:50,720
converging right now

1253
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:53,280
and maybe try finally understanding that

1254
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:55,920
timeline um well yeah and that just

1255
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,160
blows my mind to think about that

1256
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:00,160
sure it's something i'm fascinated with

1257
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,440
because

1258
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,880
you know look there does seem to be a

1259
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,720
psychological dimension to this we do

1260
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:06,640
seem to be pulling this image we can't

1261
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,000
seem to let go of of where we came from

1262
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,640
you know uh

1263
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:14,720
traveling around and hunter gathered

1264
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,000
small groups uh stronger bigger taller

1265
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,640
hunter gatherer you know private shy

1266
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,480
intelligent

1267
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,720
not ready to enter the blubbering life

1268
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,800
of a city dweller you know staying in

1269
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,119
the woods you know there is that image

1270
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,200
of us we're fascinated by it it's where

1271
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:33,760
we come from and then you have the small

1272
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,920
gray alien archetype that's been

1273
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,319
developing in the ufo community what's

1274
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,480
that why the big brain why the small

1275
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:43,040
mouth why the spindly arms does it not

1276
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,280
need to eat as much does it have more

1277
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,839
brain computing power has it already

1278
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:49,760
interfaced with a.i

1279
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:51,920
you know is that our future are we

1280
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,960
pulling that archetype towards us

1281
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,920
you know

1282
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,800
um

1283
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,160
these are questions we all should be

1284
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,160
asking because it's like that great

1285
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,720
moment in star wars when luke skywalker

1286
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:04,319
when he's training with yoda and he's

1287
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,760
going into the woods and he says you're

1288
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:07,520
only going to find what you bring with

1289
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:08,480
you

1290
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:13,040
in the ufo community and the bigfoot

1291
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:16,000
community we find what we bring with us

1292
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:17,599
and the phenomenon

1293
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:20,800
can morph and change into whatever it

1294
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,000
needs to to represent itself to us

1295
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,640
so uh it's a strange thing

1296
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,720
absolutely i think you know one of the

1297
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,480
words that always

1298
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,160
always stands out to me with these

1299
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:35,119
phenomena is amorphous it really does

1300
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:37,520
bend and mold to what we

1301
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:38,400
either

1302
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:41,040
want it to be or maybe not want it to be

1303
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,240
and um what you can take uh what your

1304
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,559
perception can manage and it's it's

1305
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:48,000
fascinating someone in the chat said

1306
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,760
very young stuff

1307
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:51,599
i hope that's a good thing i hope that's

1308
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,319
it absolutely absolutely

1309
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,760
well i want to touch on bryce um

1310
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,440
there was also a part in this season

1311
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,960
where you guys did go back to the

1312
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,280
patterson gimlin film am i correct in

1313
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:05,119
that and look at that someone in the

1314
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,400
chat said

1315
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,000
um didn't they

1316
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:11,119
admit that it was faked uh is that true

1317
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,640
and if not can you tell us a little

1318
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:13,920
about what you guys looked at this

1319
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,079
season with that sure absolutely look

1320
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,400
there's been a lot of things said about

1321
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,640
the patterson gimlin video and the film

1322
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:22,400
site but first and foremost i want to

1323
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:25,440
give my utmost gratitude and shout out

1324
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,240
to what is the bluff creek project and

1325
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,040
guys like rowdy kelly and even tate who

1326
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,880
without them we would have never gotten

1327
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:34,640
down there to the exact place and been

1328
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:37,920
able to pinpoint a lot of those uh sort

1329
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,559
of precise markers that we use so

1330
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:42,800
uh a big shout out to those guys have

1331
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,720
been who have been doing that hard work

1332
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:46,640
for so so long

1333
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:47,760
this

1334
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:49,119
video

1335
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,000
is

1336
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,160
more than just a video and it'll never

1337
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,240
be more than just a film it'll never be

1338
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:01,040
proved okay and it'll never be validated

1339
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,000
or vindicated and it'll also never be

1340
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,640
um proven to be a hoax it can't

1341
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,119
it's it's done it's lost in time it's

1342
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,040
already been mythologized it's moved

1343
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:13,200
past that it's on into the world of of

1344
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,000
tulpa now the patterson gimlin film is

1345
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:18,319
an incredible piece of evidence and

1346
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:19,760
people have been looking at that film

1347
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:21,760
for more than 50 years i believe it

1348
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:23,839
could be the most second analyzed film

1349
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:26,400
behind the zubruder film uh where jfk

1350
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,839
was shot

1351
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:29,680
so anyway people have been trying to

1352
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,480
figure out how tall that subject that

1353
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:34,640
creature was in the film for decades

1354
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,640
because they've always felt if we could

1355
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,359
get a height on that creature we could

1356
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,520
prove once and for all

1357
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:43,440
that that's a bigfoot

1358
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:46,000
and you know i sort of thought that too

1359
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:47,040
but

1360
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,640
when we had the technology to use lidar

1361
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:52,880
um on a site like that it's an

1362
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:55,440
incredible opportunity because not only

1363
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:59,040
be you know can you determine

1364
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:00,559
the pebbles on the ground up to the

1365
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,760
leaves on the tree you can determine

1366
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,160
anything you need to and

1367
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,520
so it was i'm really proud of the work

1368
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,520
we did there so anyway we were able to

1369
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:13,839
lidar that site and make a determination

1370
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:16,640
once and for all uh that anybody can

1371
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,400
check the data how tall that creature

1372
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:20,960
was her name is patty they call her that

1373
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:23,440
because uh that was roger patterson's

1374
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:26,240
name wife's name but also because roger

1375
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:27,920
patterson they called it patty anyway

1376
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:30,400
i'm rambling i'm i'm going on and on the

1377
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,640
creature came out to be six foot three

1378
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:35,040
but that doesn't matter because we also

1379
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:37,119
know it to be a female and in the

1380
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:38,960
guerrilla population the males are

1381
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:41,359
usually on average 20 to 25 percent

1382
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:43,520
larger than their female counterparts so

1383
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,319
that puts patty right in that that

1384
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:49,040
perfect zone of what a female bigfoot

1385
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,559
might look like

1386
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,720
and here's another thing what i vote

1387
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:54,640
i'll just say this about the patterson

1388
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,720
gimlin film i know a lot of people

1389
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,880
uh say yeah but isn't that guy he went

1390
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:00,800
on that show and he did the lie detector

1391
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,880
test about the about he's the guy that

1392
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:04,720
wore the suit yeah he may have did that

1393
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,720
and those producer have you ever seen

1394
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,119
anybody win on that said show

1395
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:12,000
no because it was formulated that way

1396
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:13,599
and if you look into it you're really

1397
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,520
only knowing half the story roger

1398
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:17,520
patterson also took a lie detector test

1399
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:19,920
on his deathbed too and came back that

1400
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:21,440
he was telling the truth too so they

1401
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,559
can't both be telling the truth anyway

1402
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,400
um it's just an incredible piece of

1403
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,160
evidence because

1404
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:30,079
you had two witnesses describing the

1405
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,520
same thing they've never changed their

1406
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:33,440
story over 50 years you have that

1407
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,079
incredible film left behind and you also

1408
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,000
have the trackway cast that they also

1409
00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:40,400
took so they were able to plaster cast

1410
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:42,079
those tracks that that creature left

1411
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,440
behind and

1412
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:45,280
and uh i don't know if you if your

1413
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:48,160
audience had seen uh the show but i

1414
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,599
speak with uh pgf film expert bill muns

1415
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:53,839
and when you watch him walk you walk you

1416
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:56,480
through that video and you see the toes

1417
00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:58,960
going up and down like this yeah and the

1418
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:01,599
calf muscle moving and the hair on the

1419
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,000
back of its neck rising as it turns

1420
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:06,480
around to catch bob gimlin about to

1421
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:09,200
point its rifle at her you know

1422
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:10,880
is then he said it i don't know what

1423
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:12,400
that is i just know it's a hundred

1424
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:15,599
percent biological organic that is not a

1425
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,200
suit and i agree with him 100

1426
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:21,680
that's so cool yeah that is not a suit

1427
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,160
and you know i think that's what's so

1428
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,400
cool bryce about today's world of

1429
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,040
investigation is we have this in the ufo

1430
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:31,599
field too where we can now go look at

1431
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,319
literally cases from antiquity

1432
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,119
and look at them in a different light

1433
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,200
we have people in the ufo field now who

1434
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:41,359
are going back to

1435
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:45,119
cases in the uh you know the 1700s the

1436
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:48,559
1800s and they're able to geographically

1437
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:49,440
you know

1438
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,839
find these places on google maps they're

1439
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:53,599
able to go back and find what the

1440
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,520
weather was at that time and be like huh

1441
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,000
maybe this was a weather phenomenon so

1442
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:02,480
the fact that now we can actually use

1443
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,319
tools to go back and solve past cases i

1444
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:09,280
think is uh incredible i mean will we

1445
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,040
ever truly know what patterson giblin

1446
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:14,000
was maybe not maybe not what roswell was

1447
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,880
or

1448
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,280
you know all these other ufo cases but

1449
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:19,359
we have a chance we now have better

1450
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,160
chances at unraveling these things which

1451
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,240
i think is so cool and an example of

1452
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,480
that is what you guys did on the show

1453
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,720
well thank you i i completely agree you

1454
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,720
know i also do another podcast it's

1455
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,720
called the bigfoot collectors club and

1456
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,400
and we've been researching stories of

1457
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,480
high strangeness for the last five years

1458
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,200
and and one thing i've come to learn

1459
00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:41,760
is that is to look for that strange

1460
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,319
detail don't discount it because it

1461
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:46,480
doesn't fit what you think

1462
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,559
it defines a ufo encounter or an

1463
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,440
abduction story or a bigfoot encounter

1464
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,680
look for that strange detail because

1465
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:55,920
that's going to hold a clue because when

1466
00:54:58,750 --> 00:54:57,760
you start to look at a lot of these

1467
00:55:02,069 --> 00:54:58,760
cases

1468
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,079
cryptozoological ufological ufos

1469
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:04,000
cryptids whatever you name it

1470
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,799
there's

1471
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,960
just about a strange detail in each and

1472
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:08,960
every one of those cases and they start

1473
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,200
to form patterns and you can start to

1474
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:13,920
see an overall picture that there is a

1475
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:16,240
good chance that perhaps a lot of this

1476
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,200
phenomenon is connected

1477
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:21,440
i don't know it's a crazy theory but but

1478
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,839
don't discount the strange look for the

1479
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:25,200
strange

1480
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,799
definitely did that this season for sure

1481
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,200
and um the next image i'm gonna put up

1482
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,040
here is going to show that you

1483
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,280
definitely were willing to look at other

1484
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,440
uh possibilities

1485
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:42,079
there's my ugly mug

1486
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:45,359
yes expedition bigfoot i should mention

1487
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,040
you know i'm a little biased when it

1488
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:49,839
comes to liking the show because i was

1489
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:53,040
so graciously invited on by you um to

1490
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,359
talk about the connections between

1491
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:57,680
bigfoot and ufos something people do not

1492
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:00,480
think about and uh when you came to me

1493
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:02,880
man i was like racking my brain i'm like

1494
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,559
i know they're out there i know they're

1495
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:06,960
out there so i started digging

1496
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:09,839
digging digging and i was able to find

1497
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,920
some pretty compelling stuff to show

1498
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:13,119
that

1499
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,240
at least bigfoot was being cited with

1500
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,319
ufos now does that necessarily mean

1501
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:20,720
they're connected we don't know but um

1502
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:23,359
there were some fascinating cases so i

1503
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,000
guess what did your other teammates

1504
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:28,240
think when you brought this idea to them

1505
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:31,200
i know people like um like ronnie had

1506
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,040
seen stuff when he was on the field you

1507
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,359
saw lights all of your team members saw

1508
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,440
weird lights out there um yeah what did

1509
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:38,960
they think when you said i'm bringing a

1510
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:41,680
ufologist in to talk about this were

1511
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,520
they like oh god here we go this is

1512
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,280
where the this is where we jump the

1513
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,280
shark

1514
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,200
well and and you know

1515
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:52,079
this is this is what i i love because

1516
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,760
this is your lane and i'm sure they

1517
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,680
probably thought hey we've got enough to

1518
00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:57,599
chew on with this bigfoot thing but i

1519
00:57:03,750 --> 00:56:59,599
want people to know

1520
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:03,760
did this so perfectly you just laid the

1521
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:05,440
groundwork for how

1522
00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:08,559
all this stuff is connected and you know

1523
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:10,720
we've been interested in in

1524
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,400
in stuff like you know uh

1525
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,240
i'll start here you know we talked a

1526
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,160
little bit about skinwalker ranch on

1527
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,240
your segment and and why that's

1528
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:22,880
important and uh and what that has to do

1529
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:24,640
with bigfoot right what does that have

1530
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:27,040
to do with bigfoot and the truth is the

1531
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:28,720
truth is is once we

1532
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:31,040
read books like skinwalkers at the

1533
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:33,920
pentagon by george knapp and we read

1534
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,160
into where that 22 million dollars of

1535
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,480
the defense budget that was allocated

1536
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,640
for a tip uh

1537
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,720
you know this ufo program where'd all

1538
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:44,559
that money go well we now know it went

1539
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,839
to a place

1540
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,440
called skinwalker ranch where they were

1541
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:50,000
looking into all sorts of phenomenons

1542
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:54,079
like ufos uaps upright walking creatures

1543
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,799
big hairy monsters as john keel used to

1544
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,280
call them so we know that millions of

1545
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,520
dollars were spent at this ranch and

1546
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,680
they were collecting data on all kinds

1547
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:07,030
of strange

1548
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:08,390
of my french so

1549
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,760
you know

1550
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:10,880
when you're

1551
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:11,839
so

1552
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:13,040
you know when you're trying to make

1553
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:14,880
these connections it

1554
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:17,680
it's it's not hard to do because i mean

1555
00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:20,079
it is hard to do because each field is

1556
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,799
so you know gussied up with controversy

1557
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:24,880
but but it's easy to point to those

1558
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:27,680
markers at like places like skinwalkers

1559
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,599
and say you know the government is

1560
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:31,760
interested in places like this and

1561
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:34,640
phenomenon like this

1562
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,440
right and you know i this this dates

1563
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:40,480
back a long time i mean you can look at

1564
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:42,400
something like um

1565
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:44,160
one of the cases i brought up with you

1566
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:47,040
guys out of california not too far from

1567
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,640
where you were actually investigating

1568
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,040
bigfoot um there was a case in humboldt

1569
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,440
county in 1888

1570
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:54,880
where this

1571
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:57,040
cattle rancher was approached by native

1572
00:59:01,910 --> 00:58:59,839
americans and they said come with us we

1573
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:01,920
have to show you something come with us

1574
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,160
white man we have to show you something

1575
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:06,400
and they bring him to this cave

1576
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:09,359
and there they have this creature that's

1577
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:12,000
just in the cave sort of scared doesn't

1578
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:13,920
know what it's doing and they're like do

1579
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:15,920
you know what this is because we don't

1580
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:18,880
um but we saw it come from a moon that

1581
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:21,040
descended to the ground three of these

1582
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:23,119
creatures came out and they started

1583
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,880
scampering all over one of them came

1584
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:27,119
into the cave and it won't leave now and

1585
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:29,440
they look at this thing it's got black

1586
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,640
hair yellow eyes and it's just it it

1587
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,640
seems terrified it doesn't know what to

1588
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:35,520
do

1589
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,000
and um this is one of the earliest cases

1590
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:40,400
i was able to find where we had a moon

1591
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,760
or let's say a ufo descend from the sky

1592
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:46,079
bring out these creatures and then

1593
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:47,440
presumably

1594
00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:49,839
pick them back up i don't know but yeah

1595
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,240
what did you think when um when we when

1596
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:54,640
we saw that this doesn't just you know

1597
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:56,799
this isn't a modern ufo era thing this

1598
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:59,200
these things are happening for a while

1599
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,040
you know i'm not too surprised to find

1600
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:03,359
out there's some old uh you know

1601
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,559
indigenous legends of of of tall hairy

1602
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,400
creatures and strange lights in the sky

1603
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:10,720
it's hard and your ufo audience must

1604
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:12,559
know when somebody's describing a small

1605
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,799
descending moon we're talking about a

1606
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:16,799
ufo here right i mean what are we

1607
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:19,839
talking about here so so yeah i i love

1608
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:21,920
that connection and and that's a great

1609
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,200
story and

1610
01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:25,280
and uh yeah i'm not sure what the

1611
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,599
connection is there there does seem to

1612
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:29,280
be one i i'm not sure what the

1613
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,319
relationship with the ufo uap phenomenon

1614
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:34,720
and bigfoot is maybe

1615
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:36,640
maybe if there are intelligent pilots of

1616
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,200
these craft they are aware of all the

1617
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:41,520
different flora and fauna that exist on

1618
01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:43,440
this planet that might include a

1619
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,119
creature like bigfoot and they're

1620
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:47,520
interested in checking up on him as well

1621
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:48,880
i know they're interested in checking up

1622
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:50,480
on us

1623
01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:51,760
right right

1624
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,839
um well this is these are some people

1625
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:55,280
who they might have checked up on i

1626
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,559
don't know if i brought this up on the

1627
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:58,480
show bryce are you familiar with the

1628
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:00,960
diat love pass incident

1629
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,720
come on man it's bryce johnson you're

1630
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:05,280
talking to i'm almost uh okay yeah of

1631
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,400
course man i actually i i did a uh i did

1632
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:10,160
a show that might be coming out soon

1633
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:12,000
where i'll i'll i'll serve as a talking

1634
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:14,160
head expert on the diat love pass case

1635
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:17,440
so i'm like very familiar perfect

1636
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,440
with with the incredible story of these

1637
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:21,520
nine hikers and and and how they all

1638
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:23,440
lost their lives and

1639
01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:25,359
that picture right there

1640
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,599
that to me looks like what might be

1641
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:29,599
considered a russian mink

1642
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,280
or a bigfoot

1643
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:33,680
russian style so you know i did an

1644
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,640
episode yeah exactly i did an episode a

1645
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:38,640
while back on diat love and we did go

1646
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,079
over the many theories about what could

1647
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:42,240
have happened to these to these hikers

1648
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:44,799
you know everything from obviously

1649
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:48,559
possible missile tests being done or a

1650
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:50,640
very unruly um

1651
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:52,400
native tribe that didn't want these

1652
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,240
people there up to ufos and and possible

1653
01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:58,880
cryptid creatures you know

1654
01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:01,520
i'll say this about the diet love pass

1655
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,680
if if you if you start to research the

1656
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:05,680
case and go over all the injuries

1657
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,119
sustained uh pre and post death and you

1658
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,440
look at everybody's possible scenarios

1659
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:13,760
there's really only one candidate in my

1660
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:16,240
humble opinion that fits the bill that

1661
01:02:22,069 --> 01:02:19,119
could accomplish all these

1662
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:22,079
you know terrible injuries and that's a

1663
01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:23,920
bigfoot i don't i don't believe in the

1664
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:26,480
mini avalanche theory i don't believe in

1665
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:28,559
radiation coming off of a missile test i

1666
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:31,440
don't believe in in russian military

1667
01:02:34,710 --> 01:02:32,880
getting involved because if somebody's

1668
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:34,720
gonna point a gun at you you're gonna

1669
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,160
fight for your life right you're not

1670
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:38,319
gonna let them crush your ribs take out

1671
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,240
your eyes eat your tongue you're gonna

1672
01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:43,200
fight back no bullet shots were fired uh

1673
01:02:48,549 --> 01:02:45,760
these nine hikers were huddled inside

1674
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:48,559
their tent experts found that a knife

1675
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:51,359
was cut from inside the tent inside that

1676
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:53,680
to me that looks like trying to peer out

1677
01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:55,039
from the safety of your tent and then

1678
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:57,119
everybody just scattered to their own

1679
01:03:03,109 --> 01:02:59,520
death and would die of uh

1680
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:03,119
uh brutal brutal injuries and uh you

1681
01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,720
know i think the coroner described it it

1682
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:07,119
was almost as if these injuries were

1683
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,200
sustained by like somebody hugging

1684
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:10,720
someone to death

1685
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:12,400
you know so uh

1686
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:14,640
i don't know man it's a strange case but

1687
01:03:20,309 --> 01:03:17,119
i i i do believe people

1688
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:20,319
dismiss the uh the russian bigfoot a

1689
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:21,520
little a little early a little

1690
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,119
preemptive i still think it's a good

1691
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:24,720
candidate for

1692
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,880
what might have happened to those nine

1693
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:28,000
hikers

1694
01:03:33,029 --> 01:03:30,400
i have to agree and we have to say these

1695
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,039
photos were found on the cameras of some

1696
01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:35,440
of the individuals you've got what could

1697
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,960
be considered a ufo possibly uh or this

1698
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:40,559
could be an artifact within the camera

1699
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:43,039
we just don't know there are many very

1700
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,520
mysterious photos that were found and

1701
01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:47,599
this supposed creature that we're

1702
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:49,680
looking at was one of those as well

1703
01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:52,319
could it be a hiker dressed up maybe

1704
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:53,599
could it just be

1705
01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:55,440
you know it could be anything but the

1706
01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:56,880
fact of the matter is anything these

1707
01:04:02,069 --> 01:03:59,599
nine people were brutally brutally

1708
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:02,079
killed and you truly do have to wonder

1709
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:03,760
what happened there um so i always

1710
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,480
started that one as well yeah yeah me

1711
01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:08,640
too i mean in one of the ladies journals

1712
01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:10,319
she said i believe her name was lude

1713
01:04:14,870 --> 01:04:12,640
mill as she wrote down the snowman

1714
01:04:16,630 --> 01:04:14,880
exists that's what they call the russian

1715
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,640
bigfoot the snowman

1716
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,079
why would she write that

1717
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:19,920
that gives me chills i was just thinking

1718
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,119
about it um someone in the chat here

1719
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:25,520
actually brought this up um godly moose

1720
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:28,240
says the 73 wave is infamous of ufos and

1721
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:30,640
bigfoot um so this is another big case

1722
01:04:36,549 --> 01:04:33,359
that i looked into um in fayette county

1723
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,559
pennsylvania where uh

1724
01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:38,640
yeah this is the um

1725
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,640
uh

1726
01:04:45,670 --> 01:04:43,039
yes yes yep stan gordon the famous ufo

1727
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:45,680
investigator investigated this where um

1728
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,559
george

1729
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:48,240
cowlissick i want to get his name

1730
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:49,359
kowalski

1731
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:50,160
um

1732
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:53,039
this dude witnesses this red ball come

1733
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:54,400
out of the sky

1734
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:57,760
and basically crash land in a field

1735
01:05:02,069 --> 01:04:59,680
and so he pulls over

1736
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:02,079
george to go look at what this was and

1737
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:03,599
when he gets out of his car you know

1738
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,720
he's

1739
01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:06,720
gun in hand ready to see what the heck's

1740
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:09,680
going on and what does he see but these

1741
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:12,799
hairy hominid creatures come out of the

1742
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,160
light of this ball that landed it there

1743
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:18,720
deep red eyes as you can see there and

1744
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:21,520
they start walking towards him and he's

1745
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:24,160
just not having it he's terrified so he

1746
01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:26,240
he fires at these things dude and the

1747
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:29,039
bullets supposedly just start you know

1748
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:31,359
ricocheting off of them it's not

1749
01:05:35,829 --> 01:05:33,280
not affecting them however it does seem

1750
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:35,839
to scare them and they just turn around

1751
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:38,960
very slowly and walk back to their craft

1752
01:05:43,829 --> 01:05:41,760
and um again like what the hell is going

1753
01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:43,839
on here so he reports this to the local

1754
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,240
law enforcement and the next day they go

1755
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:48,480
out there to investigate the area and

1756
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:50,319
what do they find they find all these

1757
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:53,280
burnt char marks on the fence posts they

1758
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:56,160
see this huge indentation in the ground

1759
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:58,799
where it looks like something landed um

1760
01:06:02,470 --> 01:05:59,839
there were

1761
01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:02,480
there was like a sulfuric smell all

1762
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:04,400
around the area as well that george said

1763
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:06,000
he could smell when these creatures came

1764
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:07,839
out and i know you guys have experienced

1765
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:10,880
these phantom smells as well of um these

1766
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,039
creatures don't seem to uh shower that

1767
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:15,680
often and uh something something's going

1768
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:18,079
on there but this is another striking

1769
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:20,319
case of ufos in bigfoot what do you make

1770
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:21,680
of this one

1771
01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:24,000
i would say if those pictures are cool

1772
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:25,839
anybody who saw that and tried to

1773
01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:27,920
describe it and report it a sheriff

1774
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,559
taking the report say you mean bigfoot

1775
01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:32,720
so yeah i mean yeah that looks like a

1776
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:34,319
bigfoot to me right maybe not your

1777
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:36,799
typical bigfoot but what's interesting

1778
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,359
is yeah i'm i i love this case comes out

1779
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:41,520
of an orange fiery ball strange doesn't

1780
01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:44,319
know where it is acting crazy laser eyes

1781
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:45,920
who doesn't love a bigfoot with laser

1782
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:48,079
eyes and uh

1783
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:51,280
yeah it's strange right you know

1784
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,920
one of my favorite uh sort of i guess

1785
01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:55,920
authors is a guy named john keel he was

1786
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:58,960
a fortian investigator and uh he wrote

1787
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:00,720
the mothman prophecies he's sort of

1788
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:03,680
famous for for that but uh he called all

1789
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:07,039
these things bhms otherwise known as big

1790
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,240
hairy monsters and uh and he didn't want

1791
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:12,400
to like you know get specific because

1792
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,160
like this creature that you just pointed

1793
01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:16,480
out to us there were so many different

1794
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:18,799
colors and variations and sizes and

1795
01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:20,799
looks that he just started labeling them

1796
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:23,839
all big hairy monsters and you know

1797
01:07:26,789 --> 01:07:25,039
maybe it's

1798
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:26,799
the same type of phenomenon that people

1799
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:29,200
are experiencing out in the in the woods

1800
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:31,440
you know i don't know yeah

1801
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:33,760
i don't know same um i do want to thank

1802
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:35,760
mark here for super sticker thanks man

1803
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,039
mark's a big supporter of thanks so much

1804
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,039
we always appreciate that yeah guys if

1805
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:43,039
you want um throw some questions in the

1806
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:44,480
super chat if you want to help out the

1807
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:46,240
show support somewhere in the skies

1808
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:47,520
we'll have bryce

1809
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:50,319
hopefully have some answers for you um

1810
01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:52,240
he is a busy guy so we probably won't be

1811
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:54,240
going for too much longer but bryce i've

1812
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:56,720
got one more case that i wanted to bring

1813
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:58,480
up with you if that's cool and this

1814
01:08:00,789 --> 01:08:00,000
actually comes

1815
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:00,799
from

1816
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:04,079
uh the actual project blue book files

1817
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:05,520
and this is one i brought to the show

1818
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:07,599
because i was like here you go here is

1819
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,559
when the government or the u.s air force

1820
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:12,799
actually had files on a big foot case

1821
01:08:17,229 --> 01:08:15,280
that involved ufos and this one actually

1822
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:17,239
happened this was case number

1823
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:21,440
10798 of the project book files um and

1824
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:24,239
this happened in july of 1966 in presque

1825
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:26,719
isle state park in pennsylvania again

1826
01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:28,640
there's something with pennsylvania man

1827
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:30,159
yeah where all these things are

1828
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:31,600
happening um

1829
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:34,400
these these four tourists from new york

1830
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:36,239
were on vacation and they went to the

1831
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:38,159
beach and their car actually got stuck

1832
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:39,359
in the sand

1833
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:41,679
so it was two women two guys the guys go

1834
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:43,359
to look for help someone to help them

1835
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,040
get the car out and meanwhile they see

1836
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:49,600
some weird thing in the sky

1837
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:52,400
like just zip past the water they

1838
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:54,000
thought maybe it was a plane coming in

1839
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:55,679
for like an emergency landing but

1840
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:57,440
whatever these lights were they went

1841
01:09:01,829 --> 01:09:00,159
into the woods disappeared so the guys

1842
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:01,839
are like oh crap all right now we have a

1843
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:04,000
bigger problem we have to go see if this

1844
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:06,319
is like a crash plane or something so

1845
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,440
they go

1846
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,440
and look in the woods and they can't

1847
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:11,679
find anything um there's nothing there

1848
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:13,759
that would say that um you know

1849
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:15,199
something had crashed

1850
01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:17,120
while this is happening the women are

1851
01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:18,560
still in the car

1852
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:21,520
and what they claim is that some sort of

1853
01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:24,560
hairy creature at least seven feet tall

1854
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:27,120
started running towards them on the

1855
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,080
beach

1856
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:30,480
jumped on the top of their car

1857
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:31,839
shook the car

1858
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:32,799
and then

1859
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:35,040
got off and ran into the woods where

1860
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:38,880
that ufo supposedly went and then

1861
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:40,560
they the guys come back and they're like

1862
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:42,880
we didn't find anything um we're gonna

1863
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:44,239
go try to find the police and they're

1864
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:46,719
like we've got bigger problems like uh

1865
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:49,679
bigfoot or something just attacked us

1866
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:51,920
sorry all right all right so they go to

1867
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:54,560
local law enforcement and um they come

1868
01:10:09,350 --> 01:09:55,840
in

1869
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:09,360
so

1870
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:13,360
they do they phone air the air force

1871
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,760
they phone project blue book and several

1872
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:17,520
air force investigators one of which you

1873
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,000
see in this photo here actually showed

1874
01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:21,760
up and took a report he's looking at the

1875
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:24,400
indentations right there in the beach

1876
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:26,719
and uh this is the official file and i

1877
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:28,400
know it's a little small i don't know if

1878
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:29,520
i can make it

1879
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:33,520
any bigger but you can see on the um the

1880
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:36,320
right hand side there the conclusions

1881
01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:39,920
lights unidentified um indentations not

1882
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:42,840
related to above sighting okay

1883
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:46,239
maybe monster the last one monster

1884
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:49,040
probable animal not related so we don't

1885
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,880
know i just think it's hilarious in a

1886
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:53,040
project file it says yeah they give the

1887
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,560
ufo it's justice they're like

1888
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:56,800
unidentified and then even the second

1889
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:59,360
one they're like uh unidentified then

1890
01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:00,800
they're like third one for bigfoot

1891
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:03,360
probably animal probably animal

1892
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:05,360
everything else no ufos

1893
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:06,640
but that was probably an animal like

1894
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,199
come on man

1895
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:11,199
that's great

1896
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:13,120
i love that one yeah

1897
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:14,640
it's great it's great and i know there's

1898
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,960
other cases as well um but those were

1899
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:18,640
the ones that were i was able to dig up

1900
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:22,000
for expedition bigfoot so um i highly

1901
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,000
suggest people watch the special you

1902
01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:27,280
guys did called new discoveries um where

1903
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:29,120
we get the results from the tests that

1904
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:32,000
you guys did as well and um a lot of

1905
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:34,880
stuff including one i didn't mention so

1906
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,120
before we go bryce and maybe if there's

1907
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:39,440
any listener questions uh tell me about

1908
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,280
this remote viewing thing

1909
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:43,520
oh yes please and we didn't even touch

1910
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,679
on that i totally forgot you guys had a

1911
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:47,520
remote viewer come in how did this come

1912
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,640
about

1913
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:50,320
well i'm always trying to think of a

1914
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:53,679
sort of you know um outside of the box

1915
01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:55,920
ways to hunt bigfoot right and what

1916
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:58,480
better way than get a remote viewer to

1917
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:00,960
tell us right where bigfoot's hiding for

1918
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:02,960
those uh in your show who aren't

1919
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,239
familiar with remote viewing it was uh

1920
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:08,640
it's this idea that given just a small

1921
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:12,320
amount of information an individual can

1922
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:15,840
uh get a picture of in their mind this

1923
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:19,679
place or a place or an object and they

1924
01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:22,480
can do it and they can draw it out and

1925
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:24,719
give you that information and the

1926
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:26,800
government was very interested and still

1927
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:29,040
are in this in this subject of remote

1928
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:31,360
viewing and they studied it extensively

1929
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,880
at labs like sri in the 70s there's some

1930
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:36,480
great research materials on remote

1931
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:37,840
viewing you should check it out but

1932
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:39,360
anyway

1933
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,199
so this guy named chris duncan he tells

1934
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:43,199
us you know he does a reading for ronnie

1935
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:46,000
and and he gets a lot of things like you

1936
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,400
know this fence he saw a fence and and

1937
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:50,320
next close to these nests that we found

1938
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:52,640
was this fence and so you know he's just

1939
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,800
starting to get hit after hit after hit

1940
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:57,040
so much so they were like holy cow this

1941
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:58,320
guy is like

1942
01:13:03,350 --> 01:13:01,440
just insane good right like he's hitting

1943
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:03,360
on everything we had him on the post

1944
01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:05,840
show you saw him but what you didn't see

1945
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,080
was i think maria and rightfully so was

1946
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:10,080
still a little skeptical about this idea

1947
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,520
of remote viewing and she's like can you

1948
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:13,920
do one for me now and chris duncan was

1949
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:15,280
like

1950
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:16,880
yeah sure sure

1951
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:19,120
you know i don't have uh my tools they

1952
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:20,719
really only need a pencil and a piece of

1953
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,199
paper but um

1954
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:25,040
so he's like yeah and so he did this

1955
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:26,640
spontaneous

1956
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:28,719
remote viewing thing for maria he had

1957
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,080
maria sort of

1958
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,360
pick a place in her mind and uh and then

1959
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,199
give him a little bit of information

1960
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,120
about it just like i i forgot how it

1961
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:39,679
went down um maybe it was like tell me

1962
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,920
one thing about it anyway he start he he

1963
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:43,440
finally gets it

1964
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,040
and he starts to go into detail okay

1965
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:47,280
i've got it i'm in a i'm in a tunnel i

1966
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,000
see

1967
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:50,560
water like a like a waterfall and

1968
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:52,960
reya's face just goes

1969
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:54,880
she goes i'm thinking of this place i

1970
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:56,640
used to go to when i was a kid where i

1971
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:58,560
had a tunnel and a waterfall behind the

1972
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:01,440
tunnel she was blown away pardon

1973
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:02,560
my friend

1974
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:04,800
there's something to that remote viewing

1975
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:05,840
um

1976
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,880
so

1977
01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:08,239
uh but i thought that was really

1978
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:09,440
interesting i wish that would have made

1979
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:10,960
the cut because that would have even

1980
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:12,640
turned the most hardened skeptic into

1981
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,440
like oh my god so

1982
01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:17,679
well do me a favor

1983
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:20,239
go post edit take me out and please put

1984
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:23,280
that in because i know oh my god

1985
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:24,800
ryan you were so great and you were

1986
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:26,960
saying and you know what it was such an

1987
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:29,199
integral part of this conversation is

1988
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:31,199
because now we can sort of marry the two

1989
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:34,320
together and and have a a civilized

1990
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:37,679
discussion about ufos and this

1991
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,840
wild hairy man of the woods and what's

1992
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:41,520
their connection to each other

1993
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:43,920
yeah yeah well i appreciate that man and

1994
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:46,560
i have to tell you um your audience for

1995
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:49,600
your show is are so nice i can't tell

1996
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:52,880
you after that aired i had hundreds of

1997
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,040
people reach out to me whether on

1998
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,760
twitter or that's great email facebook

1999
01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:59,679
um saying hey we saw you on expedition

2000
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:01,280
bigfoot like we want to learn more about

2001
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:04,400
these possible connections and it was it

2002
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:05,920
it meant the world to me man because

2003
01:15:09,830 --> 01:15:08,480
again like as a ufo person coming into

2004
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:09,840
the bigfoot world i'm a little

2005
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,920
intimidated i don't want to muddy the

2006
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:13,679
waters as they say and make things

2007
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:17,040
harder um but you can't deny when you

2008
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:18,960
have a project blue book file say

2009
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:21,840
monster in that these things were cited

2010
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,800
um you can't just brush that off it's

2011
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:26,400
part of the data it's part of the

2012
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:28,640
scientific method to look at everything

2013
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:31,360
before you get rid of anything so um i

2014
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:33,520
have to say thank you to your audience

2015
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:36,000
for being so accepting of these theories

2016
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:37,840
that might have something to do with it

2017
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:39,600
but might not but hey let's at least

2018
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:41,120
take a look at it that's that at least

2019
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:43,600
that's my opinion hey man appreciate

2020
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:45,679
that yeah they're really great fans and

2021
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:47,280
and so are you somewhere in the skies

2022
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:49,360
listeners and i think our fans all have

2023
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:51,120
something in common man we just we just

2024
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:54,159
want some answers and uh and and you

2025
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,320
know we're willing to think outside the

2026
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:58,719
box and and and put our money where our

2027
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:00,800
mouth is and and try and get some of

2028
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:03,440
these answers so we we know what type of

2029
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,239
world we are living in man

2030
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:08,480
reality is so strange there's got to be

2031
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:10,159
something to it man

2032
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,159
she's getting weirder and weirder oh

2033
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:14,400
yeah well bryce i've got just a a couple

2034
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:16,159
listener questions if you can stick

2035
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,520
around sure

2036
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:19,440
i totally okay cool yeah see our first

2037
01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:22,000
one sure awesome rick roberts thank you

2038
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:24,400
so much for the super chat man any plans

2039
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:26,560
on leaving more trap cameras or live

2040
01:16:31,270 --> 01:16:28,719
cams around you guys got any sort of

2041
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:31,280
24-hour monitoring going on or yeah

2042
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:32,719
we've tried that we did some of the

2043
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:34,640
24-hour monitoring thing we caught

2044
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:36,560
something really great in our first year

2045
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:39,040
that was pretty interesting um yeah i

2046
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:42,159
love i love uh camera traps and uh un

2047
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:44,080
unfortunately man

2048
01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:45,760
if you go through i mean think about all

2049
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:47,920
the hunters using camera traps all over

2050
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,320
the world they seem to

2051
01:16:54,550 --> 01:16:52,640
they seem to okay here's my theory on

2052
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,560
camera traps right

2053
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:57,360
when you're entering into a space where

2054
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:58,719
where there might potentially be a

2055
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,760
bigfoot

2056
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:01,360
they know you're in that space before

2057
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:02,800
you know you're in that space in other

2058
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:04,400
words they can smell you they hear you

2059
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:06,800
coming they they're watching you put up

2060
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:09,520
this trail camera on some tree and maybe

2061
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:11,520
snickering going yeah dude you know i'm

2062
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,760
not gonna maybe i'll maybe i'll knock

2063
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:15,280
that tree down maybe i'll take your

2064
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,360
camera but i'm not gonna i don't want my

2065
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:19,520
selfie taken today there's not a lot of

2066
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:22,400
great trail camera bigfoot photos and

2067
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:24,560
there should be right so something's

2068
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,120
going on there there's a couple of them

2069
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,679
and we've even caught a couple of uh

2070
01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:31,440
some pretty strange

2071
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,480
uh

2072
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:34,400
photos but you know there was an

2073
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:37,199
interesting study done with primates and

2074
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:40,159
uh new objects placed into their

2075
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:41,760
environment and they all became very

2076
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:44,400
aware and very suspicious of the new

2077
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,600
object uh so perhaps that translates

2078
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,280
into the field like you know when

2079
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:51,040
something like a trail camera is being

2080
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,920
put on a tree um you know they're gonna

2081
01:17:57,510 --> 01:17:55,520
know about it you know

2082
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:57,520
yeah they're a lot smarter than i think

2083
01:18:01,990 --> 01:17:59,440
we give them credit for absolutely

2084
01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,000
that's a good point um darcy's here she

2085
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:04,719
asks bryce what way tech experiment do

2086
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:06,400
you want to still try during an

2087
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:08,000
investigation that you have not gotten a

2088
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:11,040
chance to yet any big bucket list things

2089
01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:12,560
you want to do

2090
01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:14,719
oh man i have a lot of crazy ideas

2091
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:17,600
believe you me i do and uh you know i

2092
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,800
was just going to say one more thing on

2093
01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:21,280
that trail camera thing you you touched

2094
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:23,280
on this earlier you know think about how

2095
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,239
we as humans take in our environment our

2096
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:28,400
our spectrum of senses you know we only

2097
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:30,800
see such a small spectrum on the audio

2098
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,440
and visual spectrum what if

2099
01:18:37,630 --> 01:18:35,360
these bigfoot creatures have the ability

2100
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:37,640
to sort of sense electromagnetic

2101
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:39,840
electromagnetic activity coming from a

2102
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:42,560
device perhaps they see in a spectrum

2103
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:44,800
that a trail camera sticks out like a

2104
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,560
sore thumb in their trees you know um

2105
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,880
but anyway what type of tech experiment

2106
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:52,400
do i want to try

2107
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:55,600
uh that i haven't gotten to to to change

2108
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:57,040
one that i want i want to summon a

2109
01:19:02,149 --> 01:18:58,640
bigfoot

2110
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:02,159
using uh uh some type of magical ritual

2111
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:04,159
maybe i'll get a hold of uh greg and

2112
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:06,880
dana uh newkirk and have him help me but

2113
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,480
i'm in i want to try

2114
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:10,480
some crazy stuff you know

2115
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:13,040
detectives when when they're really

2116
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:15,199
stymied on a missing person's case

2117
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:16,640
there's been times where they've looked

2118
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:19,440
to a psychic to help them for a clue or

2119
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,199
to look in different areas with the

2120
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,120
success that we had with the remote

2121
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:25,360
viewing i wouldn't be i wouldn't mind

2122
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:28,080
trying like a a really talented psychic

2123
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:29,920
and seeing she can point us in the right

2124
01:19:33,350 --> 01:19:32,080
direction or something like that

2125
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:33,360
um

2126
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:35,920
but uh yeah i don't know i've got a lot

2127
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:38,080
of i've got a whole notebook full of

2128
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,960
crazy ways on how to capture evidence of

2129
01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:42,239
bigfoot

2130
01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:44,560
oh my god i would kill to see that

2131
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:46,400
notebook

2132
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:48,400
it reads like a comic book sometimes

2133
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:50,480
yeah

2134
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:53,040
what your life is slowly becoming it's i

2135
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,760
know it's too weird

2136
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:58,000
uh logan black says what's your favorite

2137
01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:01,199
ufo hot spot in the world any area that

2138
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,159
you um you'd like to go out as a budding

2139
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:06,560
ufologist now you're in man you had me

2140
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:08,639
on the show you're you're making you're

2141
01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:10,639
putting those questions out there yeah

2142
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:13,199
where do you want to go to look for ufos

2143
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,440
well i'd want to go to a place that

2144
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:17,280
would give me the best chance of seeing

2145
01:20:22,709 --> 01:20:20,000
one and you know i had a guy named jim

2146
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:22,719
perry who runs the euphemist podcast uh

2147
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:25,600
a great guy he was a guest on our our

2148
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:27,199
podcast and he talked about a place

2149
01:20:33,189 --> 01:20:29,760
called sea city ranch where there seems

2150
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:33,199
to be a lot of ufo activity and not only

2151
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:35,360
that he had a bigfooted experience there

2152
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:38,080
as well so there seems to be a a

2153
01:20:43,030 --> 01:20:40,800
crossover of the two phenomenons taking

2154
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:43,040
place in this one little place called

2155
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:45,199
the sea city ranch i believe it's in

2156
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:47,280
northern california

2157
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:50,159
somewhere around here but i i might try

2158
01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:51,840
first yeah

2159
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:53,920
uh but i would go there either that or i

2160
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:56,080
would go to maybe a place like sedona or

2161
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,400
something and go into an energy portal

2162
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:00,800
and see what i can love it

2163
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:03,199
just see bryce meditating he's got the

2164
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:05,600
crystals on that is

2165
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:08,639
to a t or joshua tree yeah yeah

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01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:10,800
yeah metaphysical place here that's for

2167
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:13,520
sure um mine would be i don't even think

2168
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:16,639
this person wants my opinion but um mine

2169
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:19,120
would be the san luis valley actually oh

2170
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:20,719
that place is

2171
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:23,360
crazy cattle mutilation shadow figures

2172
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:24,480
oh yeah

2173
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,639
it's like this skinwalker ranch i think

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01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,480
of uh colorado

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01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:30,960
um so that's where i would want to go i

2176
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,120
think that's the next big place that

2177
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:35,520
people are sort of looking at um besides

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01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:38,159
skinwalker ranch or you know these other

2179
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:40,400
sort of what they call window areas that

2180
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,080
we talked about on the special there

2181
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,239
where all of these weird things

2182
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,320
seem to be happening um what do you

2183
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,320
think that is man skinwalker wrench you

2184
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:50,400
did mention that at the top of the show

2185
01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:52,719
do you think there are actual areas

2186
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:55,840
where all of this stuff converges or um

2187
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:57,040
yeah yeah

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01:22:12,229 --> 01:21:57,920
i

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01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:12,239
at the pentagon and there he sort of

2190
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:13,679
lays out

2191
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,360
this idea and concept of the hitchhiker

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01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:19,120
which is like when you go to a place

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01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:21,199
like skinwalker be careful because you

2194
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:23,440
could be bringing something back home a

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01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:25,440
few of these military analysts and

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01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:28,159
experts that visited the ranch early on

2197
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:29,920
when they went back home do you know

2198
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:36,950
dogmen that would come in their backyard

2199
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:39,920
dog men so like these wolf type

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01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:41,120
creatures

2201
01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:43,440
uh would end up in their homes in their

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01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,199
backyard and this didn't happen once

2203
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:48,159
twice but uh half a dozen or so times to

2204
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:50,480
different people on that ranch so

2205
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:52,560
when you start talking about this dog

2206
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:55,280
man phenomena that is relatively recent

2207
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:57,520
in the annals of cryptozoolo

2208
01:23:03,189 --> 01:22:59,920
zoology i start to wonder what's going

2209
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,199
on here why is this new and why is is is

2210
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:05,760
the big man bigfoot archetype changing

2211
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:08,960
into more like lycan more wolf-like

2212
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:10,960
because we're getting a lot of credible

2213
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:13,360
dogmen reports in and around the country

2214
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:16,320
and i find those very strange especially

2215
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:18,840
at places like skinwalker

2216
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,040
ranch right and lest we forget you guys

2217
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:25,440
possibly found hair from some wolf-like

2218
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:27,920
creature in northern california of all

2219
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:30,400
places that shouldn't be there so like

2220
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:32,800
again are we doing what if that's one of

2221
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:34,560
what

2222
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,159
like on russell's track or it comes back

2223
01:23:42,550 --> 01:23:39,840
human but it's not really human what if

2224
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,560
this hair comes back like alaskan wolf

2225
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:44,400
but it's not really alaskan wolf maybe

2226
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:45,760
it's more of a

2227
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:47,600
this i don't know i don't know my fans

2228
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:49,840
would be like no stay on bigfoot don't

2229
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:52,639
don't go to dogman yet all right

2230
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:55,679
let me just stay on bigfoot right now

2231
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,159
i love it i love it man well hey i've

2232
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:00,960
kept you much longer than i told you so

2233
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:02,880
we're gonna wrap things up here my man

2234
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:05,360
but um before we go

2235
01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:08,320
um please can you tell us a little about

2236
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:11,199
what comes next for you guys um and then

2237
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:12,960
yeah tell us about the podcast and

2238
01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:15,040
everything else he got going on um this

2239
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:17,199
is the time give us all of the bigfoot

2240
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:19,520
uh bigfoot stuff coming up

2241
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:22,080
absolutely well as we revealed on on the

2242
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:24,320
post show that that of course ryan was

2243
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:27,199
on we follow this new lead from that

2244
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:29,679
uh from the dna results from this wolf

2245
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:33,040
hair and it takes us to alaska and we

2246
01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:35,600
had him the most incredible journey in

2247
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:37,840
alaska i can't wait for our fans to to

2248
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:40,639
witness and explore that with us and uh

2249
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,040
and you can find every episode of

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01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:45,120
expedition ever made on the discovery

2251
01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:46,960
plus app please do it's the home of

2252
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,360
paranormal television there is i mean

2253
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,440
travel channel is is the home for

2254
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:53,040
paranormal television and you can get

2255
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:56,080
that all on the discovery plus app uh

2256
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:58,000
and then other than that i do a podcast

2257
01:25:01,110 --> 01:24:59,679
with my great buddy michael mcmillan and

2258
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:01,120
riley bray it's called the bigfoot

2259
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:03,199
collectors club ryan's been a part of it

2260
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:05,120
come check out his episode if you're

2261
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,120
looking for a great starter episode to

2262
01:25:11,830 --> 01:25:09,679
check us out we talked to amazing guests

2263
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:11,840
about their personal paranormal history

2264
01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:13,199
and then we tell a story of high

2265
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,199
strangeness we don't take ourselves too

2266
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,280
seriously but we take the subject of the

2267
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,520
strange very seriously uh wherever you

2268
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:21,280
get your podcasts

2269
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,560
yep wherever you get somewhere in the

2270
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:24,880
skies you can find it i had the amazing

2271
01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:26,639
opportunity to be your understudy

2272
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:29,120
recently because you were out hunting

2273
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:32,159
big oh yes and michael called me in man

2274
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,840
called me in from the bullpen and he was

2275
01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:35,280
like

2276
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:36,560
we gotta talk

2277
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:38,639
congressional hearings so i got to be

2278
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,830
well we think the world of you and we

2279
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,360
think the world of your audience so

2280
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:47,040
thank you for all that you do man you're

2281
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:48,880
you're at the perfect time the place to

2282
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,760
be uh delivering out that good good ufo

2283
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:53,679
podcast stuff so thank you for what you

2284
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:54,800
do

2285
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:56,800
thanks man and thank you again for

2286
01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:58,239
coming on somewhere in the skies it

2287
01:26:02,070 --> 01:25:59,840
truly was an honor

2288
01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:02,080
anytime man it's my pleasure

2289
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:04,000
awesome i'm going to talk some shop with

2290
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:05,360
the audience here man but i'm going to

2291
01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:07,920
let you go get back to work i know the

2292
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:09,520
work is only beginning over there at

2293
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,920
expedition bigfoot so have a great night

2294
01:26:15,510 --> 01:26:14,320
and please give michael and uh and riley

2295
01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:15,520
my best

2296
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:18,239
cool thank you so much thank you guys

2297
01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:19,520
take care

2298
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:25,510
oh my gosh guys that was so much fun

2299
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:27,840
again i knew having bryce on that this

2300
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:29,440
conversation would just go into a

2301
01:26:33,669 --> 01:26:30,719
million different

2302
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,679
places and it did it truly did and um i

2303
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:35,360
loved it so please let us know what you

2304
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:37,760
think in the comments below um is there

2305
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:40,560
a connection between bigfoot and ufos i

2306
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:42,400
seem to think there is i think bryce is

2307
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:45,440
kind of on his way there as well um but

2308
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:46,960
we'll see we'll see in future

2309
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:49,280
expeditions with expedition bigfoot

2310
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,040
again you can check it out on discovery

2311
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:53,520
plus right now um you can also get that

2312
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:55,840
through amazon prime i believe is where

2313
01:27:02,070 --> 01:26:59,280
i watched it and it's fantastic so uh

2314
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:02,080
with that guys please um we check out

2315
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:05,040
the show we did another episode uh today

2316
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:06,560
that dropped today actually where we

2317
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,000
talked to um

2318
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:10,639
uh we talked to tim barnes he is a

2319
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,199
comedy central animation animation

2320
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:15,600
creator he has a new series on comedy

2321
01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:16,960
central called

2322
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:20,080
uh what is it called maurice on mars and

2323
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,159
uh hilarious hilarious you can check it

2324
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:24,159
out on the youtube channel of comedy

2325
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:27,280
central and uh it's all about earthlings

2326
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:29,520
going to colonize mars and bringing all

2327
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:32,159
of the baggage from earth with them it's

2328
01:27:36,629 --> 01:27:34,159
really funny i highly suggest you check

2329
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:36,639
out our interview with tim barnes and go

2330
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:39,760
check out the cartoon as well um other

2331
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,920
than that we've got some awesome

2332
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:43,679
episodes coming up in the near future

2333
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:46,000
another witness accounts episode where

2334
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:49,440
you call in and tell me your ufo stories

2335
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:52,480
in your own words i don't interrupt i

2336
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:54,480
don't get involved this is just you

2337
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:56,239
telling your story and the more stories

2338
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:58,960
we hear the more normal this becomes and

2339
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:00,320
that's when we can truly get to the

2340
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:02,320
heart of these mysteries uh one

2341
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,960
experience at a time so yeah if you have

2342
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:06,320
had a ufo

2343
01:28:10,629 --> 01:28:08,639
incident sighting encounter that you

2344
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:10,639
want to share on the show please feel

2345
01:28:14,350 --> 01:28:12,159
free to reach out to me you can use the

2346
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:14,360
contact tab on our website

2347
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,480
somewhereintheskies.com uh there's links

2348
01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:17,840
right down there in the show notes for

2349
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:20,719
you as well and yeah we got a lot coming

2350
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:22,400
up guys buckle up things are gonna be a

2351
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:25,040
little crazy in these next few months as

2352
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:27,840
i plan to move overseas but um the show

2353
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,000
will continue nothing will change here

2354
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:32,080
at summer in the skies this is my life

2355
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:34,320
this is my passion i love every second

2356
01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:37,040
of it doesn't matter where i'm located i

2357
01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:40,000
will continue to uh

2358
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:41,760
prod these mysteries as long as i

2359
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:44,639
possibly can until we find some answers

2360
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:46,960
so yeah that's about it guys um thank

2361
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,560
you for joining us tonight my special

2362
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:50,719
thanks to bryce johnson for coming on

2363
01:28:55,510 --> 01:28:53,920
and um with that you can check out the

2364
01:28:57,110 --> 01:28:55,520
show every monday wherever you get

2365
01:29:00,390 --> 01:28:57,120
podcasts we're on twitter at summer

2366
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:00,400
skies instagram at summerskiespod and if

2367
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:02,719
you like this episode please share it

2368
01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,360
with your friends and family click like

2369
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:07,520
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2370
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:10,239
know when we release new episodes so

2371
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,320
that's it guys i will leave you with our

2372
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:14,880
slogan as always here and that is to

2373
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,880
keep your feet on the ground but never

2374
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:18,880
stop searching somewhere in the skies

2375
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:25,590
hey guys ryan here the summer in the

2376
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:28,880
skies podcast is a labor of love every

2377
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:31,040
week and with that comes many different

2378
01:29:36,149 --> 01:29:33,520
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2379
01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:36,159
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2380
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:38,320
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2384
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2385
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:50,480
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2386
01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:53,760
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2387
01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:55,520
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